By Madison S. Hughes (08.29.2011)
On 08.29.2011 I posted I posted a YouTube video on my blog titled, “Janet Porter Prays for Control of Government,” below which I penned the caption, “WOW! How disturbing is this? Religion should be criminalized before we find ourselves back in the Dark Ages.” As one may imagine, some found my caption as disturbing as the video itself. What follows is my response to a comment left by a fellow blogger. “jodaph970”responded to my comment as follows:
“Sure, it’s disturbing, but I also find your comment (“Religion should be criminalized before we find ourselves back in the Dark Ages.”) to be just as disturbing. Embracing a tyrannical dictation of what others should and shouldn’t do is the very antithesis of America.”
I responded as follows:
jodaph970,
Thank you for taking the time to reply. A little intellectual pugilism is great exercise.
My intention in claiming that religion should be criminalized before we find ourselves back in the Dark Ages was that of hyperbole. It both emphasized my intense disdain for religion, and served it purpose as having an effect on the reader. Do realize that when I reference religion, I am referring to organized religion. I believe that what people do in the private sphere is up to them, and I take no issue with it. However, when one feels compelled to foist their irrational beliefs on the public—although they still do in the voting booth, think eight years of Bush—I feel an even greater obligation, for the well being of the public of which I am part, to prevent such a transgression of idiocy from occurring.
While I can understand your consternation for such a strong attack against religion, I wonder if you truly believe that criminalizing religion is “just as disturbing” as the video. I fail to see how criminalizing the public imposition of religion would have as bad an impact on the well being of society, as would the participants of the video realizing their dream of a strong theocracy. We already saw that movie, and we know how it ended. It was a very long movie that started with Constantine, and ended with the Enlightenment (and you thought “Gone with The Wind” was long). The movie was titled “The Dark Ages,” and frankly, I think it sucked!
On the other hand we see a region of the world, i.e., Scandinavia where, while religion is not criminalized, they give no credence to religious dogma. Religion is very minimal, and mainly used for ceremonial purposes. The result . . . Scandinavia, specifically Denmark and Sweden, consistently score higher on the “happiness index;” they also have a much lower crime rate than do more religious, and especially extremely religious countries like the United States. To familiarize yourself more with these little known facts, I highly recommend the book “Society without God: What the Least Religious Nations Can Tell Us About Contentment,” by Phil Zuckerman.
While my comment was admittedly amplified, one should note that it is the iconoclasts of history who were the ones that fought for greater (conservatives, here comes some of that red meat you “claim” to cherish) liberties, and freedoms for the masses, not the orthodox committed to the status quo. Either way, it would not hurt anyone to give thought to the matter. Albeit, when it comes to religion, dogma trumps reason every time.
I leave you with a quote from the highly intellectual Anti-theist Christopher Hitchens that captures the essence of religion quite nicely, he said that, “Religion is violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism, tribalism, and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children.” I, and approximately 40 million American citizens, and close to one billion Earthly denizens worldwide wholeheartedly agree. One may attempt to disagree with his assessment through the contortions of intellectual dishonesty; however, 2000 years of Abrahamic religious history would prove such an endeavor futile.
In Reason,
Madison
Madison,
Thank you for the thoughtful response! You may be surprised to find that I agree with most of your key points–religion is dangerous, it is volatile, and it is the source of a great deal of humanity’s problems. Especially organized religion.
I must admit a misconception. I did not realize your original post was referring to the “public imposition” of religion. This statement is one of the many reasons this country is so great. The ability to distinguish between religious fundamentalism and ethical law is the very core of our nation. Now, the woman in the video got part of it correct–that statement is nowhere to be found in our Constitution. But I sincerely doubt it was part of some Russian manifesto. Thomas Jefferson was quoted as saying it in a letter to a friend.
A disturbing thought would be the criminalization of religion in any aspect. The First Amendment right to practice any religion one chooses is the first of its kind, and is revolutionary. To deny it would be inherently oppositional to what this country was founded on–no matter how crazy the people in the video may be.
I do consider myself a Christian but have shrugged off the burden of organized religion (for the same reasons you’ve described). In the end, we can be thankful that the prayers in the video are largely ignored by God. However, we cannot be thankful that conservative principles have been redefined by these people as “religious principles”… which is a shame. But that’s a discussion for another time.